Talk: Art History 2011-2012

Job offers/salary info?

Can people please share their job offer details (anonymously)?

Did anyone apply for the 19th century job at Aquinas College? Any news?

71.205.93.27 15:18, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

I actually think this is one of the most important functions of the wiki - we need to be informed & ready for negotiations (even if we suck at them like I do). In that spirit: 60K (negotiated from 59), midwest urban private college, 3/3 load. Laptop comes with the job. Negotiated $1k extra research funds for 2 years.

Asst professor, art school, midwest, salary 53K, 3/3 load, $2000/yr for 2 years for research, $1000 for relocation, standard benefits.

Sure, here's my update for a position starting Fall 2012: assistant professor level 1, small liberal arts college, western US, salary 67k, 3/2 load, $3500 research fund to be used in first 4 years, standard benefits (health ins., 401k, etc.), 6 years for tenure review, no sabbatical until after tenure, post-tenure 1 semester sabbatical (or 1 year at 1/2 pay) 144.91.159.239 16:26, March 27, 2012 (UTC)

TT asst professor, research 1 university, urban East Coast, salary 68k, 2/2 load, $15000 research funds to be used in first 3 years, $3500 for research assistant, $10000 relocation costs, standard benefits, 1 semester paid leave pre-tenure, 6 years for tenure review.208.66.213.170 00:50, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Where did the other salary details go? (there were at least 3 others) I must say, this information is really valuable to have in negotiations, and it's strange that some postings disappeared...Indeed. I just went back and retrieved them. I tried to see if I could trace the IP address that deleted them...to no avail. I henceforth banish the deleting monster from this wiki. 4/14

VAP (one year appt), small liberal arts, Midwest, 3/2. $49k, $5k research, $1k moving, $1500 conference travel, computer, benefits.

VAP, liberal arts, rural Midwest, 3/3, $50K, $2500 research, $4000 moving, benefits.24.222.250.27 01:02, July 2, 2012 (UTC)

Assistant Professor, one-year position, southeast, small liberal arts college, 3/3, $42.5K, $700 conference travel, benefits. 6/166.26.224.116 08:59, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

Here are the deleted entries:

A tip to all. Ask for computers, ask for library resources, beg for a sabbtical before tenure, ask for conference support, a new desk chair if you spotted an old one in your office to be, ask for it all now. They won't take away the job offer because you asked for these things, and if you don't ask, you don't get before you sign. . I am one of the people on the other side of the desk, making the offers, and I tell you, art historians don't ask as much as they should. You should see what the scientists demand, and get!

TT asistant professor, southern comprehensive, urban, salary $50000 (9 months), standard benefits, laptop, $1000 travel.

TT Assistant Professor (starting), East Coast Liberal Arts College, $72.5K salary (negoitated up from 71k), $10,000 moving expenses, $15,000 startup research funds (first three years), standard retirement and medical benefits, 1/1/2 teaching load (quarter system) with one course release in the first year, 6 years for tenure review with two or three quarter leave in year three or four.

It is encouraging to see (after living for years on pre-doc stipends of around 30k) that TT is 50k and upwards. Thank you for sharing some of your job agreement details! (4/11)

TT assistant professor. Starting. Urban Midwest R1. Salary 64k, 20k startup funds, 5k moving expenses. 2/2 load. 1 semester paid leave per-tenure or one year half pay. Standard benefits, conference travel and book illustrations. 4/20

TT asst. professor, midwest SLAC, $65.5K, 3/2 course load, laptop, annual conf. travel 2K, standard benefits, 6 yr tenure review w/ 1 semester pd research leave. 5K relocation. negotiated salary and relocation up very slightly.

TT Assistant Professor (starting), rural state midwestern university, $54K, 3/3 load, benefits, $1500 conference travel, $500 cash start up "bonus," some library funds, half relocation paid.

TT asst prof, east coast suburban small public, $52k, 3/3, standard benefits & funds for conf, prof dev, etc.

Early Modern Positions

How many candidates do you think are applying for each of the Early Modern positions (1400-1800)? (1/24/12) 72.200.67.148 19:38, January 24, 2012 (UTC) I heard that last year there were between around 30-40 EM applicants for some of the jobs in more obscure locations and up to 80-100 for jobs in more central/urban locations with other jobs falling in between.

I'd love to get a sense of what specialities are getting interviews for positions. I don't know how other EMs feel, but i find it frustrating to think I'm spending all this time on applications for schools that actually do know what they want (Northern Baroque, Italian Ren, whatever).

I agree, it is a bit daunting since there are so many good candidates in each of these specialities. If schools could narrow it down a bit that would be helpful. It seemed that all the EM searches were casting a large net that maybe they were unsure of what they really wanted until they saw it in someones CV. Good luck.

Along those lines, a lot of medievalists suspect that Med-Ren comibined positions are most likely to go to early modernists, for any number of reasons. If that's what they want, fine, but save us medievalists the time, please.

​Cassandra-like voices of the damned

Abandon hope all ye who enter here. This is a truly terrible career move. You are going to give everything up and get nothing in return. No one reads, nor cares, what you write. Your students are stupid. You are poor by the standards of other academics. This field is only for those with rich husbands or fathers. You are doomed to nothingness. Your work product is worse than useless. Your students don't care about anything. You will live in a city you hate. You will forget what it is like to be happy. You will drag your spouse and children down with you. You will sink into obscurity. You will be basically irrelevant to the larger direction of society, and even to the activities of those, such as artists, museumgoers, and art lovers, who might be expected to give two cents about your endeavors. Really, you might as well give up now. Majoring in the humanities was a big mistake. Big, big mistake. You should have majored in computer science, economics or engineering. Why were you such a fool? Unfortunately, by the time you've reached this point, it's way too late. You're well on the way to middle age, with less financial or social status than a high-school principal. You are a LOSER. L O S E R. Get used to it. L O S E R. Forget about it.

wow. depressed much? i am tempted to delete the above post, but would not want to contravene the wiki ethic. could this be disgruntled undergrad that one of us has crossed? in any case, it appears that we are all LOSERS. (9/13)

Is it just me or is this page quasi-defunct this year? Though the hiring season, if one can call it that, opened with a whimper, it's shaping up to be nearly as pathetic as last year. Bully and Hooray! Surprised not to see the 8-12 actual available jobs listed in these pages. Admittedly, I haven't taken the initiative, but if a few of us post one or two openings the Wiki will be poised for the enjoyable/angst-ridden updates that make it so damned soul-crushing, er, useful. (wondering if we've become so mercenary as to not want prospective competitors to know what's out there, as if we aren't all trolling constantly)98.246.119.86 07:54, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

Participation this year

I see that another person already mentioned this below, but I also have been wondering whether there is less participation in the Art History job Wiki this cycle, or whether the jobs are simply not coming through, searches flagging, etc. Now that the jobs are being posted, many seem weirdly quiet. 1/16/12

Based on last year's wiki, it seems like most people found out about CAA interviews in the last bit of January/early Feb. And CAA is later this year, which I'm sure will change things up schedule-wise. Guess we'll find out soon enough if people aren't hearing things, or if they just aren't participating. I know quite a few people who are self-proclaimed "lurkers," which is unfortunate. Knowledge is power, folks!

Based on last year's cycle, I heard nothing until after January 20, and I ended up with numerous interviews and a TT job. Keep in mind, CAA is much later than usual--last week of Feb, instead of second. (1/18/12)

Anonymity

For all those jobs where it says "made and accepted," how about a few more names? It's not like this is going to remain a secret forever, anyway. Next September we are all going to be able to figure out who got the job. Once it's been "accepted" it's only a matter of time until everyone finds out. So why not just make an announcement and let everyone know?

• Here, here. Really, it is getting ridiculous.
• I thought it was up to the person getting the job to post their name if they wish. Their news to share.